Re: attachment size limitation

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From Jon Stevens Jul 1, 2009 12:01 PM

Umm yea, I'd just turn off mail queue approval before doing the import and
then turn it back on afterwards. =)
jon

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 12:23 AM, Charles Williams
<c.williams@planet-ic.de>wrote:

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> Jon,
>
> so. after the change I can now import a 90+ MB archive into subetha which
> is great. the only problem
> is that the archive is not imported directly into the archive in subetha.
> instead it is put in the
> mail queue for approval (list holds all new messages). which means there
> are about 400 mails waiting
> for approval and once approved they will be sent to all list members.
>
> not a very good way to import old archives.
>
> chuck
>
>
> Charles Williams wrote:
> > Jon,
> >
> > that's what I ended up doing yesterday. bumped it to 100 MB (exim is
> limited to 50 MB anyway) and
> > hopefully that will be enough. it did take forever to find the correct
> constant to change though.
> > why couldn't you have answered earlier? LOL
> >
> > anyway. am going to try and import an archive now and see if that works
> now. I hope so. have been
> > dealing with this migration for over a month now. has long since become
> old. :(
> >
> > thanks again,
> > chuck
> >
> >
> > Jon Stevens wrote:
> >> It is odd that you are hitting this limit with a 4 meg attachment, but I
> can
> >> easily see it with a larger (14/35meg) attachment.
> >
> >> The issue is buffering. Imagine if 100 messages come in at the same
> exact
> >> time and each has a 10 meg attachment. That is a minimum of 1gig of
> memory
> >> that the JVM needs to deal with. If you overflow the JVM heap size, then
> you
> >> are shit out of luck. (Make sure you increase the amount of memory
> allocated
> >> to the JVM... edit resin.conf and specify a much larger
> >> <jvm-arg>-Xmx512m</jvm-arg>... I'd also specify an equally sized -Xms
> >> variable as well.)
> >> Agreed that this should be a more easily configured option. We can
> improve
> >> on that in the future. Have you tried increasing the limit? (just
> recompile
> >> subetha, it is pretty easy). Change the MAX_MESSAGE_BYTES variable in
> the
> >> InjectorBean to something much larger. Here is the link to how to setup
> a
> >> development environment. You can skip the eclipse part... just check the
> >> source code out and use ant to compile a war file for you with an 'ant
> war'
> >> command.
> >> http://code.google.com/p/subetha/wiki/DeveloperGuide
> >
> >> jon
> >
> >
> >> On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 11:48 PM, Charles Williams
> >> <c.williams@planet-ic.de>wrote:
> >
> >> well, just finished a google search regarding this and it seems to be
> the
> >> same error/bug that was
> >> first reported back in 2007. which impacts all mail whether imported
> into
> >> the archives or newly sent
> >> messages.
> >
> >> this is also the same problem that I reported a while back. and am
> >> currently catching hell for here.
> >> am wondering why a hardlimit was set at all. something like this should
> >> automatically be configurable.
> >
> >> http://www.subethamail.org/se/archive_msg.jsp?msgId=25608
> >
> >> ok. rant over. ;)
> >
> >> has been a rather crappy morning here.
> >
> >> chuck
> >
> >
> >> Charles Williams wrote:
> >>>>> almost forgot.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> am using the new 2.0 version of subetha. ;)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> why can't we have an attachment size limit setting in the subetha
> config?
> >> would make a bit more
> >>>>> sense if you asked me.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> chuck
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Charles Williams wrote:
> >>>>>> Hey guys,
> >>>>>> we are still having attachment size problems. we've tried with 4, 14
> and
> >> 35 MB files and all are
> >>>>>> dropped with the following error:
> >>>>>> Exception in thread "org.subethamail.smtp.server.Session"
> >>>>>> javax.ejb.TransactionRolledbackLocalException:
> >> java.lang.RuntimeException:
> >>>>>> javax.mail.MessagingException: IOException;
> >>>>>>   nested exception is:
> >>>>>>      org.subethamail.common.io.LimitExceededException: Predicted
> size
> >> 10002432 exceeds limit 10000000
> >>>>>>      at com.caucho.ejb3.xa.XAManager.commit(XAManager.java:247)
> >>>>>>      at
> >>
> _ejb.Injector.InjectorBean__EJB$Injector__EJBLocal.inject(InjectorBean__EJB.java:268)
> >>>>>>      at
> >> org.subethamail.core.smtp.OurDeliverer.deliver(OurDeliverer.java:34)
> >>>>>>      at
> >> org.subethamail.core.smtp.SMTPHandler$Handler.data(SMTPHandler.java:140)
> >>>>>>      at
> >> org.subethamail.smtp.command.DataCommand.execute(DataCommand.java:55)
> >>>>>>      at
> >>
> org.subethamail.smtp.server.CommandHandler.handleCommand(CommandHandler.java:72)
> >>>>>>      at org.subethamail.smtp.server.Session.run(Session.java:114)
> >>>>>> Caused by: com.caucho.transaction.RollbackExceptionWrapper:
> >> java.lang.RuntimeException:
> >>>>>> javax.mail.MessagingException: IOException;
> >>>>>>   nested exception is:
> >>>>>>      org.subethamail.common.io.LimitExceededException: Predicted
> size
> >> 10002432 exceeds limit 10000000
> >>>>>>      at
> >> com.caucho.transaction.TransactionImpl.commit(TransactionImpl.java:610)
> >>>>>>      at
> >>
> com.caucho.transaction.TransactionManagerImpl.commit(TransactionManagerImpl.java:270)
> >>>>>>      at
> >> com.caucho.jca.UserTransactionImpl.commit(UserTransactionImpl.java:437)
> >>>>>>      at
> >>
> com.caucho.jca.UserTransactionProxy.commit(UserTransactionProxy.java:166)
> >>>>>>      at com.caucho.ejb3.xa.XAManager.commit(XAManager.java:243)
> >>>>>>      ... 6 more
> >>>>>> Caused by: java.lang.RuntimeException:
> javax.mail.MessagingException:
> >> IOException;
> >>>>>>   nested exception is:
> >>>>>>      org.subethamail.common.io.LimitExceededException: Predicted
> size
> >> 10002432 exceeds limit 10000000
> >>>>>>      at
> >> org.subethamail.core.injector.InjectorBean.inject(InjectorBean.java:213)
> >>>>>>      at
> >>
> _ejb.Injector.InjectorBean__EJB$Injector__EJBLocal.inject(InjectorBean__EJB.java:260)
> >>>>>>      ... 5 more
> >>>>>> Caused by: javax.mail.MessagingException: IOException;
> >>>>>>   nested exception is:
> >>>>>>      org.subethamail.common.io.LimitExceededException: Predicted
> size
> >> 10002432 exceeds limit 10000000
> >>>>>>      at javax.mail.internet.MimeMessage.parse(MimeMessage.java:340)
> >>>>>>      at javax.mail.internet.MimeMessage.<init>(MimeMessage.java:209)
> >>>>>>      at com.sun.mail.smtp.SMTPMessage.<init>(SMTPMessage.java:109)
> >>>>>>      at
> >> org.subethamail.common.SubEthaMessage.<init>(SubEthaMessage.java:75)
> >>>>>>      at
> >>
> org.subethamail.core.injector.InjectorBean.injectImpl(InjectorBean.java:258)
> >>>>>>      at
> >> org.subethamail.core.injector.InjectorBean.inject(InjectorBean.java:190)
> >>>>>>      ... 6 more
> >>>>>> Caused by: org.subethamail.common.io.LimitExceededException:
> Predicted
> >> size 10002432 exceeds limit
> >>>>>> 10000000
> >>>>>>      at
> >>
> org.subethamail.common.io.LimitingInputStream.thresholdReached(LimitingInputStream.java:30)
> >>>>>>      at
> >>
> org.subethamail.common.io.ThresholdingInputStream.checkThreshold(ThresholdingInputStream.java:146)
> >>>>>>      at
> >>
> org.subethamail.common.io.ThresholdingInputStream.read(ThresholdingInputStream.java:93)
> >>>>>>      at
> java.io.BufferedInputStream.fill(BufferedInputStream.java:218)
> >>>>>>      at
> java.io.BufferedInputStream.read1(BufferedInputStream.java:258)
> >>>>>>      at
> java.io.BufferedInputStream.read(BufferedInputStream.java:317)
> >>>>>>      at
> com.sun.mail.util.ASCIIUtility.getBytes(ASCIIUtility.java:259)
> >>>>>>      at javax.mail.internet.MimeMessage.parse(MimeMessage.java:338)
> >>>>>>      ... 11 more
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> chuck
> >>>>> _______________________________________________
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Umm yea, I&#39;d just turn off mail queue approval before doing the import and then turn it back on afterwards. =)<div><br></div><div>jon<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 12:23 AM, Charles Williams <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:c.williams@planet-ic.de">c.williams@planet-ic.de</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

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Jon,<br>
<br>
</div>so. after the change I can now import a 90+ MB archive into subetha which is great. the only problem<br>
is that the archive is not imported directly into the archive in subetha. instead it is put in the<br>
mail queue for approval (list holds all new messages). which means there are about 400 mails waiting<br>
for approval and once approved they will be sent to all list members.<br>
<br>
not a very good way to import old archives.<br>
<br>
chuck<br>
<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
<br>
Charles Williams wrote:<br>
&gt; Jon,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; that&#39;s what I ended up doing yesterday. bumped it to 100 MB (exim is limited to 50 MB anyway) and<br>
&gt; hopefully that will be enough. it did take forever to find the correct constant to change though.<br>
&gt; why couldn&#39;t you have answered earlier? LOL<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; anyway. am going to try and import an archive now and see if that works now. I hope so. have been<br>
&gt; dealing with this migration for over a month now. has long since become old. :(<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; thanks again,<br>
&gt; chuck<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Jon Stevens wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; It is odd that you are hitting this limit with a 4 meg attachment, but I can<br>
&gt;&gt; easily see it with a larger (14/35meg) attachment.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; The issue is buffering. Imagine if 100 messages come in at the same exact<br>
&gt;&gt; time and each has a 10 meg attachment. That is a minimum of 1gig of memory<br>
&gt;&gt; that the JVM needs to deal with. If you overflow the JVM heap size, then you<br>
&gt;&gt; are shit out of luck. (Make sure you increase the amount of memory allocated<br>
&gt;&gt; to the JVM... edit resin.conf and specify a much larger<br>
&gt;&gt; &lt;jvm-arg&gt;-Xmx512m&lt;/jvm-arg&gt;... I&#39;d also specify an equally sized -Xms<br>
&gt;&gt; variable as well.)<br>
&gt;&gt; Agreed that this should be a more easily configured option. We can improve<br>
&gt;&gt; on that in the future. Have you tried increasing the limit? (just recompile<br>
&gt;&gt; subetha, it is pretty easy). Change the MAX_MESSAGE_BYTES variable in the<br>
&gt;&gt; InjectorBean to something much larger. Here is the link to how to setup a<br>
&gt;&gt; development environment. You can skip the eclipse part... just check the<br>
&gt;&gt; source code out and use ant to compile a war file for you with an &#39;ant war&#39;<br>
&gt;&gt; command.<br>
&gt;&gt; <a href="http://code.google.com/p/subetha/wiki/DeveloperGuide" target="_blank">http://code.google.com/p/subetha/wiki/DeveloperGuide</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; jon<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 11:48 PM, Charles Williams<br>
&gt;&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:c.williams@planet-ic.de">c.williams@planet-ic.de</a>&gt;wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; well, just finished a google search regarding this and it seems to be the<br>
&gt;&gt; same error/bug that was<br>
&gt;&gt; first reported back in 2007. which impacts all mail whether imported into<br>
&gt;&gt; the archives or newly sent<br>
&gt;&gt; messages.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; this is also the same problem that I reported a while back. and am<br>
&gt;&gt; currently catching hell for here.<br>
&gt;&gt; am wondering why a hardlimit was set at all. something like this should<br>
&gt;&gt; automatically be configurable.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; <a href="http://www.subethamail.org/se/archive_msg.jsp?msgId=25608" target="_blank">http://www.subethamail.org/se/archive_msg.jsp?msgId=25608</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; ok. rant over. ;)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; has been a rather crappy morning here.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; chuck<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Charles Williams wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; almost forgot.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; am using the new 2.0 version of subetha. ;)<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; why can&#39;t we have an attachment size limit setting in the subetha config?<br>
&gt;&gt; would make a bit more<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; sense if you asked me.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; chuck<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Charles Williams wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Hey guys,<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; we are still having attachment size problems. we&#39;ve tried with 4, 14 and<br>
&gt;&gt; 35 MB files and all are<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; dropped with the following error:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Exception in thread &quot;org.subethamail.smtp.server.Session&quot;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; javax.ejb.TransactionRolledbackLocalException:<br>
&gt;&gt; java.lang.RuntimeException:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; javax.mail.MessagingException: IOException;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;   nested exception is:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;      org.subethamail.common.io.LimitExceededException: Predicted size<br>
&gt;&gt; 10002432 exceeds limit 10000000<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;      at com.caucho.ejb3.xa.XAManager.commit(XAManager.java:247)<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;      at<br>
&gt;&gt; _ejb.Injector.InjectorBean__EJB$Injector__EJBLocal.inject(InjectorBean__EJB.java:268)<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;      at<br>
&gt;&gt; org.subethamail.core.smtp.OurDeliverer.deliver(OurDeliverer.java:34)<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;      at<br>
&gt;&gt; org.subethamail.core.smtp.SMTPHandler$Handler.data(SMTPHandler.java:140)<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;      at<br>
&gt;&gt; org.subethamail.smtp.command.DataCommand.execute(DataCommand.java:55)<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;      at<br>
&gt;&gt; org.subethamail.smtp.server.CommandHandler.handleCommand(CommandHandler.java:72)<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;      at org.subethamail.smtp.server.Session.run(Session.java:114)<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Caused by: com.caucho.transaction.RollbackExceptionWrapper:<br>
&gt;&gt; java.lang.RuntimeException:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; javax.mail.MessagingException: IOException;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;   nested exception is:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;      org.subethamail.common.io.LimitExceededException: Predicted size<br>
&gt;&gt; 10002432 exceeds limit 10000000<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;      at<br>
&gt;&gt; com.caucho.transaction.TransactionImpl.commit(TransactionImpl.java:610)<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;      at<br>
&gt;&gt; com.caucho.transaction.TransactionManagerImpl.commit(TransactionManagerImpl.java:270)<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;      at<br>
&gt;&gt; com.caucho.jca.UserTransactionImpl.commit(UserTransactionImpl.java:437)<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;      at<br>
&gt;&gt; com.caucho.jca.UserTransactionProxy.commit(UserTransactionProxy.java:166)<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;      at com.caucho.ejb3.xa.XAManager.commit(XAManager.java:243)<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;      ... 6 more<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Caused by: java.lang.RuntimeException: javax.mail.MessagingException:<br>
&gt;&gt; IOException;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;   nested exception is:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;      org.subethamail.common.io.LimitExceededException: Predicted size<br>
&gt;&gt; 10002432 exceeds limit 10000000<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;      at<br>
&gt;&gt; org.subethamail.core.injector.InjectorBean.inject(InjectorBean.java:213)<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;      at<br>
&gt;&gt; _ejb.Injector.InjectorBean__EJB$Injector__EJBLocal.inject(InjectorBean__EJB.java:260)<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;      ... 5 more<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Caused by: javax.mail.MessagingException: IOException;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;   nested exception is:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;      org.subethamail.common.io.LimitExceededException: Predicted size<br>
&gt;&gt; 10002432 exceeds limit 10000000<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;      at javax.mail.internet.MimeMessage.parse(MimeMessage.java:340)<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;      at javax.mail.internet.MimeMessage.&lt;init&gt;(MimeMessage.java:209)<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;      at com.sun.mail.smtp.SMTPMessage.&lt;init&gt;(SMTPMessage.java:109)<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;      at<br>
&gt;&gt; org.subethamail.common.SubEthaMessage.&lt;init&gt;(SubEthaMessage.java:75)<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;      at<br>
&gt;&gt; org.subethamail.core.injector.InjectorBean.injectImpl(InjectorBean.java:258)<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;      at<br>
&gt;&gt; org.subethamail.core.injector.InjectorBean.inject(InjectorBean.java:190)<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;      ... 6 more<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Caused by: org.subethamail.common.io.LimitExceededException: Predicted<br>
&gt;&gt; size 10002432 exceeds limit<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 10000000<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;      at<br>
&gt;&gt; org.subethamail.common.io.LimitingInputStream.thresholdReached(LimitingInputStream.java:30)<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;      at<br>
&gt;&gt; org.subethamail.common.io.ThresholdingInputStream.checkThreshold(ThresholdingInputStream.java:146)<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;      at<br>
&gt;&gt; org.subethamail.common.io.ThresholdingInputStream.read(ThresholdingInputStream.java:93)<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;      at java.io.BufferedInputStream.fill(BufferedInputStream.java:218)<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;      at java.io.BufferedInputStream.read1(BufferedInputStream.java:258)<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;      at java.io.BufferedInputStream.read(BufferedInputStream.java:317)<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;      at com.sun.mail.util.ASCIIUtility.getBytes(ASCIIUtility.java:259)<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;      at javax.mail.internet.MimeMessage.parse(MimeMessage.java:338)<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;      ... 11 more<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; chuck<br>
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